Whey digests in about half an hour, and is the fastest at doing so. I have heard between 20-30g for one person at a time. If you are a really big guy, maybe 40, as it depends on the person. Personally I weigh 170 and am 6'2 and get between 25-30g post workout.

I think it has to do with what kinds of protein you consume. like Whey Protein i believe the number is 35g can only be absorbed post workout but When you get into caseins and egg albumen it slows the absorbtion rate and so you can take more protein in as a whole.
This is why protein blends are becoming increasingly popular like Pro Complex.

The creatine mono will make you bloat but it shouldnt be noticeable. Kre-Alkalyn is a good substitute if your looking for a zero bloat creatine.
You will keep all strength gains once you cease use of creatine. Your endurance will be noteably less though because you will have a lower point of muscle fatigue.

Bloating only occurs when you're not getting enough water, to compensate for the water that is being absorbed into your muscles with the creatine.

So if you're experiencing bloating on Creatine, all you have to do is drink more water.

When on Creatine you should be trying to drink at least a gallon of water a day.

Also, you won't lose any of your gains, but you could lose some volume from water leaving the muscle fibers. This is typically very small and hardly noticeable, and what really matters is that you don't lose the strength, which you won't.

Best in my opinion:

Green Mag-Controlled Labs

Storm-Universal

Plain Creatine Powder, just mix it with water. Cheap and effective.

-AP

Con-Cret was great for me micro dossing was awesome cause you only take it with like 8 oz of water so your stomache wont feel all filled up. only downside was it tastes pretty tart.

Are you actually stacking Jacked and Superpump?? You should not stack two different pre-workout drinks together because 1. That is too many stimulants and 2. There are a variety of different ingredients in all of these supplements and they could adversely react to one another. As you said before these workout supplements are alternatives to each other, and it is not adviseable to stack them.

I wouldnt say alternatives. they are listed as nitric oxide and pre workout. with Nitrix it says to take 3 - 4 depending on weight every meal and no explode take a scoop before workout. super pump does say take before a workout same with Jacked but super pump says to do at least one scoop during the off days as well and Jacked just says to do during workouts. are they listed under the wrong catagory in the website? Since each one is an alternative to no explode and the other is an alt to Nitrix and Nitrix and no explode is a recommended stack.

They are not incorrectly listed, however they all exhibit nitric oxide effects through varying pathways.
There is no reason to take one of these products combined with another.
The reason superpump tells you to use it on off days is to boost there sales through excessive use of the product and for your body to maintain muscle saturation with creatine and the added benefits of using BCAA's and EAA's alongside your regular diet.

Yes a multi-vitamin very important!! Especially when you are weightlifting and tearing down your muscles. My favorite is Optimum Opti-Men its got everything you need.

It's best to take one all of the time, whether working out or not, or on off cycling creatine or other types of supplements. Being healthy and supplying your body with the nutrients it needs is always good. Plus they are cheap, you don't necessarily have to get an expensive sports vitamin, although those would work best if you are very serious about it.

The Animal Pak will take care of your liver as long as you dont take anything additionally that could cause your liver harm like a PH or excessive drinking. Drink plenty of water whenever you are physically active and this will keep your kidneys flushed and healthy. You have a good stack overall and seem to have a solid base.

Any kind of kre-alkalyn, take one dose first thing in the morning and 2nd dose post workout and you are good to go! 1g of kre-alkalyn = 10g of monohydrate

Powder form:
-Plain creatine mono powder is cheap and effective
-GreenMag
-Storm

Capsule form:
-Kre-Alkalyn
-Cre-02

These are all great products and very cost effective.

-AP

All the time. Sticking to your diet is also important on off days. Those are the ones you give your body a chance to rebuild itself.

You need to consume at least 1 gram of protein per pound of lean mass daily to help maintain a positive nitrogen balance and prevent catabolism.

-AP

if your looking for decent energy, good focus, and and an great pump, i would go for Jacked or Black Powder. if your just looking for really good energy, metrx amped and no explode are good for that. most people prefer and solid pump from a pre workout to lots of energy, but you might get more energy taking Jacked or Black Powder than i did, thats just my expierance on them. i am currently taking Jacked.

i like pumpfuel..it gave me a good pummp and increase in strength. i also heard good things about Super Pump 250. or for a pill i would try nano x9

Id have to go with Jacked, Its the cleanest and most productive pre WO supplement out there, in my opinion. Im 6 ft, 205, so kinda close to you in stature, and I got the best results from Jacked. I also like NO Shotgun because of the protein content and Redline that it has in it. But for focus, pump, endurance, and overall satisfaction go with Jacked.

Jacked, absolute no brainer.

I also was dissapointed with amp NO loaded. It has too much caffeine(400mg) and left me with a lot of side effects. You can take a caffeine free pre-workout like Super NOS Pump if you like.You can get it at walmart or meijer for 10-12 bucks.

im looking at Monster Pump, the new Cytosport product. It has enough caffeine to give you focus(200mg), but shouldn't kill you. Jacked is also good i hear, but i'm not excited about the creatine monohydrate in it.

Its tough to build muscle and cut fat simultaneously. There is no way to really target the stomach fat, as fat is usually reduced all-around evenly.

I would start with an NO product or Creatine to build some muscle, and once you have put on a few pounds of muscle, reduce your caloric intake and start cutting some of the fat.

well i tried alot of creatine products and didnt find anything i like and all i got from NO was a pump and increase while doing my workout. i would like some recamendations for a post workout.

kre alkalyn is the best creatine. im pretty sure it holds the least amount of water retention too but im not sure. look for some using this site and pick the one you think is the best value and most effective based on ratings and reviews.

Try Anabolic Pump by USP Labs. That's supposed to be a good product for muscle building/fat loss. Stacking it with a creatine like kre-alkalyn or creatine ethyl ester will help with strength gains without too much water weight.

whenever dropping weight, make sure you have a good diet plan, and stick to it. also throw in lots of different types of cardio to challenge your body.

When you start, you should always ramp up. You need to let your body adjust to the PH, so on first dose you should do 1 of each the first day, and build till you are up to 2 epi & 3 furazadrol for the first week.

You probably just over stimulated yourself, and you need to let your system calm down.

Since you're only 2 days in, don't take anything for the rest of today or tomorrow, and get some calcium & magnesium. This will calm you down, and could even put you to sleep, but that's a good thing.

Also, if you're getting shakes, take magnesium. It will help to reduce shakiness.

How about ZMA that has calcium and magnesium.

Yes, ZMA works. Anything that has a calcium & magnesium mix will help with being jittery, or will help you sleep when you need to.

Looks like a big scam of a supplement.
If it did work, which i doubt it does, its just creatine with ZMA and tribulus for 40 bucks.

Pro Complex Gainer by Optimum Nutrition is only $29 per 14 servings, so it's half as much, and I really trust ON. They make quality products. You might want to try that one.

how obout Quick Gainer from MRI is really a good one a lot of my friends have use it.
and CytoGainer i use this one and is taste good..

Thanks guys, I appreciate the quick answers, I like ON as well, I take their 100% Whey protein. So I think I'm going to give the Pro-Complex a try. I'll post a review and let everyone know how well it works!

No, actually that is a perfect combo. You should see some nice gains! Remember be constant and train hard!!

Birdman is right. These products are actually synergistic in nature, meaning they all complement and work well with each other. Drink a lot of water, and try to get your protein in within 45 minutes of finishing your workout.

While having a serm on hand is always smart with the serious designers, MMV2 is rather mild and a PCT of Formadrol/Psarm fits very well.

-AP

If you want to take the Tamox, it's 20 mg per milliliter. So you'll need something that measures milliliters.

20 mg is one dose, so if you wanted to use it as a PCT, you would take 20 mg, or 1 mL per day for 4 weeks.

i appreciate the timely replies, and i have one more question i forgot about. what is the proper way to take this? do i mix it with anything or drink it alone?

I haven't tasted this yet, but some say to mix it in juice because the taste "isn't great" that's not necessarily that it's bad, just that it isn't great.

If you can stomach the taste, take it on it's own so that it doesn't mix with anything, and cause unwanted reactions.

You want to look for one that gives you "dry" gains.

PH's by nature aren't meant for true cutting. They're meant for adding strength & weight.

Now, when you take a PH, your body increases it's anabolic output, which means it uses more fuel. So if you diet correctly, you can use a PH to get cut, but that doesn't mean it's meant to cut.

Now, I posted this to someone else, but Epistane is a PH that is said to give dry gains. I've been using it to cut, and have lost 3.5% of my body fat in 2 weeks, while doing a CKD diet. REALLY good results in my book. I started at 20.1% and am down to 16.6% as of this morning. I've also added 4 pounds, so I know I'm adding dry lean muscle.

I've been doing some studying, and thinking about my next cycle already, and I've seen some people who will run Epistane & Furazadrol, both dry gainers, as a stack. This should probably only be considered if you're wanting a really hard cut, as two dry gainers means you may have joint issues.

There's also this crazy stack that comes in one pill, called Kryptonite by superhero supplements. It's Epistane, Tren & Superdrol stacked. I don't suggest anything that stacks more than 2 PH's at a time, but I thought I would mention it, because SD & Epi both will give you dry gains, while Tren is more of a wet gainer, meaning you'll see more bulk but it will also cause some water retention, and you may add some fat with your muscle.

Still, my suggestion is pick a PH that gives you dry gains, and keep your calories low, and you'll cut fat.

ECA buddy. Ephedrine, Caffine, Asprin. All workout freaks use it when going on cut cycle. that cycle give u results that are unreal and belive me it the only things that will work non of these garbage prducts out there

a gainer will have more calories and possibly more protein per serving so if you are trying to put on some weight the gainer is for you. if you are just trying to give your body what it needs after a workout as part of a healthy diet then get the regular whey Pro Complex. as for the kre-alkalyn, just search this site for the highest rated and reviewed product and decide for yourself which one you think is the best for you.

I would go with Pro Complex, not the gainer. Either way, youre taking in 60 g of protein per serving, tons of aminos, and glutamine. The gainer is going to have a ridiculous amount of calories, a lot of which you might not use. I personally use regular Pro Complex, and LOVE IT. As for the Kre Alkalyn EFX and 1500, they are both PH buffered creatines that do the same thing. I like 1500 because I get it for less $. They are both excellent.

Yes. Taking it according to that chart is what USP has found to yield the best results.

jack3d has a fair amount of creatine in it but you still might want to take a post workout secing of your Kre-Alkalyn 1500.

Best way is

Anabolic-Pump - 1 cap, two-three times a day 20 minutes before meals

Prime - 2 caps, 3 times a day with meals

PowerFULL - 2-3 caps 20-30minutes before workout with Jack3d. 2 caps PowerFULL before bed on empty somach

PowerFULL will help your sleep.

with the asteroid stack you can honestly stack it with virtually anything... it is non hormonal so it has no direct affect on your testosterone levels. by taking Anabolic Pump it enhances pretty much any other supps you take. your best bet jump on a gainer with the pump. all the carbs and protein in your shake will be shuttled directly into your muscle that act like a sponge